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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:54 pm
by RufCTR
AngryTaco wrote:Never said it was all good. I wrote this before they got in touch with me FINALLY.
And then at the end... I basically got told...oh btw were out of stock on the other parts you need.
I NEVER said the part was out of stock. I said I thought I had to order the part, which is normal procedure for most of the engine valves. They are usually one day away.
After you replied asking whether we had them (I did not see your e-mail immediately) and I finished putting out other fires (one of the many hats I wear here), I went into the shipping department and put my hands on the parts to verify we have them so that I could correct my mistake (regarding the e-mail I sent). We are shipping your parts out on Monday.
We are not perfect and some of the systems need improvement, but we are working on making things better and finding ways to better assist everyone as best as possible.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:33 pm
by 40v4kq
Not trying to keep the fire burning, just an observation really. If you dont have a part on your shelf that your business sells, isnt that part technically out of stock? In stock...you have it on the shelf ready to sell, out of stock...you dont have it on the shelf ready to sell. Right? Atleast that how the toyota dealer that I worked at for 11 years saw it. Stock is considered what you have available on the shelf.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:11 pm
by ringbearer
Got to at least give the guy credit for posting on here trying to clarify the situation...
I hope it works out and everyone gets what they need in the end.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:11 am
by pilihp2
Sam's always done right by me. Even when he's trying to convince me to go to 034IIC
Everybody is only human.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:20 am
by 40v4kq
Yes, huge props to Sam for keeping his cool when on the forums. It really takes a lot of self control and preservation to do that when dealing with irrate customers. That cant be said for a certain co-worker of his though.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:23 am
by AudiSport4000
40v4kq wrote:Yes, huge props to Sam for keeping his cool when on the forums. It really takes a lot of self control and preservation to do that when dealing with irrate customers. That cant be said for a certain co-worker of his though.
2nd on irate customers. Im sure 034 plays a juggling act daily with many people in regards to small issues with products, so a little patience by the consumer is always needed. Having been in customer service for a while I know this first hand, as to the agents I work directly with. A little patience and keeping cool can go a long way. That being said I wasnt aware of any issue with their motor mounts, but know that they would make it right. I plan on inspecting my exhaust hangers I got from them and if they arent holding up you get I'll get ahold of them to see if anything can be done.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:10 am
by RufCTR
40v4kq wrote:Not trying to keep the fire burning, just an observation really. If you don't have a part on your shelf that your business sells, isn't that part technically out of stock? In stock...you have it on the shelf ready to sell, out of stock...you don't have it on the shelf ready to sell. Right? At least that's how the Toyota dealer that I worked at for 11 years saw it. Stock is considered what you have available on the shelf.
You are 100% correct on in-stock versus something that has to be ordered.
My mistake was that I did not check on the shelf first and made the assumption I would have to order the part. I sent an e-mail that was vague and led the customer to believe the parts needed to be ordered. After re-reading my e-mail, I will try to be more careful and clear to avoid future confusion.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:34 am
by 85oceanic
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:56 am
by AngryTaco
Thank you for clarifying Sam. Notice I did not start to rant and rave over the invoice mistake and chose to wait for your response which was fast this time around. I honestly thought about not saying anything and waiting to see if indeed the wrong parts were being sent. Hell would have been released had that been the case. But I decided that I need the car up and running asap so I inquired about the mistake. Im glad everything has been smoothed out at this point in time.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:07 pm
by AngryTaco
Cleaning up the engine bay. Finally mounted the WGFV on the firewall where it belongs. I used 1/4" fuel line as dampeners. I used a stud to mount it to the firewall. Where it came from I have no idea.

My wall of shame

Looking like the car should be back up and running this weekend....hopefully
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - 10 bent valves
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:51 pm
by AngryTaco
I think this summer I am going to invest in some painting equipment and repaint my 4kq. I want to do the original LY3D but add a SMALL amount of flake for a metallic effect
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:15 am
by AngryTaco
Update. Car is 90% back together. All that is left is timing belt, covers and crap, add coolant, and fire it up. Inspected the broken motor mount and all I have to say is what an absolute horrible design. I was able to beat it back in with a hammer. So I'm going to have someone weld it and I'm gonna sell it or just keep it as a spare
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:27 am
by 40v4kq
This is all good news. Did you end up with oversozed valves?
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:35 am
by scubadave
How did the new crank sprocket feel on the crank? Any play?
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:12 pm
by AngryTaco
New sprocket was very tight and secure. Had my buddy hold the brakes and I cranked down on that bolt as much as I could with my 2ft breaker bar
Ended up getting the correct 34mm valves from 034. So pretty much just going to church today and then off to complete the car.
I managed to get the lights mounted up too but am unsure where to route wiring. Thinking of going through sunroof but IDK
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:40 pm
by scubadave
That may not be enough to get the crank tight enough, and may be the unfortunate reason it failed in the first place. I can only guess that you are only able to get it to a max of 100ish ft lbs before the engine overpowers the brakes. Its just not enough to get it tight enough. You must jam the crank totally. You can weld, i know you can. Make a crank tool you can prop against the frame or ground and use blue thread lock. While my engine was on the stand, i used two flywheel bolts and my big prybar to jam it against the stand. It worked well that way while I also used blue threadlock.
Im not trying to be critical, just that i dont want to see this happen again.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:02 pm
by quattro87
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:08 pm
by 85oceanic
That is awesome John
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:13 pm
by quattro87
My biggest problem was that I had almost more leverage on the breaker bar than I had clean garage to work with.

Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:54 pm
by AngryTaco
How does the tool attach to the crank pulley? Through 2 of the cog bolts? Im a little lost on how it mounts.
I pretty much stood on the bar with the car in 4th and friend on brakes.
On a good note, after a few strange problems, and a fuel pump later, the car runs absolutely incredible. The first time I cranked it over, it fired up IMMEDIATELY. I couldnt believe it. Then the electrical gremlins started. Thinking the fuel pump was finally dieing, which it was, I towed it back to the garage, AGAIN, a whole .5 miles after putting it together. It was doing the whole screw you dance by randomly running then dieing then coming back to life and so on and so on. All signs pointed towards fuel as I had spark. So I change the pump tonight, $100 later and the problem is still here. Now Im pissed because I cant exactly return the pump. Then for some weird reason I was compelled to start wiggling wires.......hmmmmmmmmm guess I forgot to tighten the ecm ground. Once again I win stupid of the month award.
But it turns out a new pump was needed regardless. Can you say full powah!!! Cant wait till the rings are fully seated now
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:57 pm
by AngryTaco
Ohhhh now I see how that tool works. Im gonna have to make one for sure
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:12 am
by scubadave
Make the handle long enough to jam against the frame. U think u got powa now? Wait till you install the ...du du duuuu...TURBO.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:17 am
by Hank
quattro87 wrote:
LOL, that is my laundry basket from when I was a kid. First time I have ever seen it empty.
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:19 am
by AngryTaco
Yeah now I cant wait for that Volvo k24 and VEMS + W/M
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Going Back Togeth
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:31 am
by Hank
Oh wow, I didn't realize you are you going 7400 k24! Right on, I can't wait to see how a 20v likes that turbo.