Tacos 4KTQ I0vt Swap: The Red Baron - buying parts again
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Ive been tuning the truck last couple days. Im moving into a house right now so ill finally have a garage to work out of again.
No more time excuses
No more time excuses
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
You sure have done a lot of work without a garage!
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day


I dont want to hear about the "did you pull your axles?" questions. Even the manual says this is ok to tow in this manner. Even if it wasnt, I dont care because the transmission is junk and it deserves to be destroyed.


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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
Hey did you pull the rear drive line before towing it like that? That center diff won't be too happy with you.
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
its an open differential you fools!
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
But did you at least pull the driveshaft? Its only money, right? 

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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
You'll still burn that center diff up in that trans man. 

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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
Did no one read the 5 different posts where I said the trans is junk, Im putting a new one in, and I dont care?
Im finding the manual and posting a pic
Im finding the manual and posting a pic
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
lol - we need to start showing taco some love and encouragement.
Hope the move went well dude, moving into a house will be a life changer for you.
Hope the move went well dude, moving into a house will be a life changer for you.
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
It actually might not hurt anything because the center diff will be flooded with oil, and the trans gears will be turning which will splash lube up and around to things.
Lots different than towing a RWD without pulling the driveshaft, because then the only thing that turns is the output shaft... inside the gears which might be on needle bearings or they might be on bushings, and getting NO splash lube because the gears aren't turning.
Lots different than towing a RWD without pulling the driveshaft, because then the only thing that turns is the output shaft... inside the gears which might be on needle bearings or they might be on bushings, and getting NO splash lube because the gears aren't turning.
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
themagellan wrote:lol - we need to start showing taco some love and encouragement.
Hope the move went well dude, moving into a house will be a life changer for you.
is this a woman's forum? i thought we were 95% dudes here.
Dudes give each other shit when the other mess up or act weak. Thats how its done.
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
dana wrote:themagellan wrote:lol - we need to start showing taco some love and encouragement.
Hope the move went well dude, moving into a house will be a life changer for you.
is this a woman's forum? i thought we were 95% dudes here.
Dudes give each other shit when the other mess up or act weak. Thats how its done.
But we also encurage the stupid behavior that causes them to mess up!
I hope moving it to a new place was worth it. Post pics of the new work space when ready!
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
dana wrote:themagellan wrote:lol - we need to start showing taco some love and encouragement.
Hope the move went well dude, moving into a house will be a life changer for you.
is this a woman's forum? i thought we were 95% dudes here.
Dudes give each other shit when the other mess up or act weak. Thats how its done.
I did not know the preachings of the kingdom of brodum had reached this realm
''this forum is slow… lately.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
dana wrote:Dudes give each other shit when the other mess up or act weak. Thats how its done.
I think I receive about 95% of all the shit on this forum
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
i think its mainly in response to all the '20v is the best thing ever' comments
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
dana wrote:i think its mainly in response to all the '20v is the best thing ever' comments
too funny-
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
dana wrote:i think its mainly in response to all the '20v is the best thing ever' comments
You don't hear about 20vt people bending rods or breaking 016s do you?

Although at this point, I'm mainly going 20vt because I already cut the battery tray out... if I went 20vt then I'd have to find another battery tray and weld it in because there'd be no reason to give up all that cargo space. And yes, I'm dead serious. I think I'm at $4500 with the 20vt and still haven't bought a computer yet, and I plan on ditching the KKK turbo for a Precision PT5558 next spring...
There's a lesson in this. NEVER ADD UP WHAT YOU HAVE SPENT. And especially never do autotrader searches for 6-speed Allroads and realize that you could have just bought one of those AND fixed any suspension issues it probably had.
Pete, that rallycross guy
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
AngryTaco wrote:dana wrote:Dudes give each other shit when the other mess up or act weak. Thats how its done.
I think I receive about 95% of all the shit on this forum
20v valves will get you half the shit of 10
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
Has anybody ever actually had a problem with towing a car with two wheels on the ground? A coupe we had was towed like that probably 10 miles, was totally fine for the year+ we had it for... Just a myth? 

Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
Colin2750 wrote:Has anybody ever actually had a problem with towing a car with two wheels on the ground? A coupe we had was towed like that probably 10 miles, was totally fine for the year+ we had it for... Just a myth?
my friend towed a v8q that way and it sized something up and started dragging the arse end down the road. He sawzalled the driveshaft and continued.
But...that was also an automatic, a whole 'nother set of issues.
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
dana wrote:Colin2750 wrote:Has anybody ever actually had a problem with towing a car with two wheels on the ground? A coupe we had was towed like that probably 10 miles, was totally fine for the year+ we had it for... Just a myth?
my friend towed a v8q that way and it sized something up and started dragging the arse end down the road. He sawzalled the driveshaft and continued.
But...that was also an automatic, a whole 'nother set of issues.
Has to have been Cyrus hahahaha
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
The automatics are torsion centers along with the later 016 trans. Those you can not tow like I did as they are technically limited slip differentials
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
They are technically open diffs, not limited slip... unless they have a preloading clutch/Belleville washer in them.
Pete, that rallycross guy
'06 Volvo S60 R (Swedish GTR)
'84 RX-7 (bridge ported, fuel injected, way modified dirt buggy)
'86 QSW (MC2 goes here. Eventually.)
'81 RX-7 (restoration project)
'73 RX-3 (poor man's Mk2 Escort)
'06 Volvo S60 R (Swedish GTR)
'84 RX-7 (bridge ported, fuel injected, way modified dirt buggy)
'86 QSW (MC2 goes here. Eventually.)
'81 RX-7 (restoration project)
'73 RX-3 (poor man's Mk2 Escort)
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
Either way torsion's do not like being towed like that.
Old and grumpy.
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Moving
Torsen center and rear on a v8. At least on all the other cars you've got an open rear and a torsen center, or open center. Torsen on both ends is the definition of NO
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