Matt's 84 4000S quattro AKA "the snow camo 4000"

[vwnut8392]

my buddy finished editing the photos he took of my car so i figured i'd share them.

[PRY4SNO]

That car looks fucking baller compared to that pro skier with the generic camo rs6 and lambo.

Well played, sir. Well played.

[vwnut8392]

That car looks fucking baller compared to that pro skier with the generic camo rs6 and lambo.

Well played, sir. Well played.

Thanks! the lambo inspired my paint scheme originally and the RS6 popped up after i did my car. i've seen a few other done in similar schemes so i changed it up with the skulls in the pattern. It took me roughly a month and a half to do the scheme by hand, it took so long because i kept changing things lol.

[85oceanic]

Thumbs up man! Nice work!

[vwnut8392]

a whole audi V8 parts car just fell into my posession, it runs and drives but its rough. im thinking about plucking the AAN out of the 4000 now and putting the V8 in it. i still have my UR quattro that i could install the AAN into but its original engine runs so well i'd hate to remove it. boy im in a little bit of a pickle

[dana]

have you ever driven a v8? you might be a bit disappointed compared to the 20vt. They sound amazing, but not tons of power. Maybe with some forced aspiration though...now we're getting somewhere.

[vwnut8392]

have you ever driven a v8? you might be a bit disappointed compared to the 20vt. They sound amazing, but not tons of power. Maybe with some forced aspiration though...now we're getting somewhere.

i've driven a few but all automatic. i know their pretty gutless but thats a heavy car the 3.6 V8 is carrying plus the automatic's gearing is horrible. i looked into the mapping in the ECU too and its pretty conservative too, could stand to have the timing advanced and some more fuel added. i boosted 3.6 would be fun lol. wouldnt be that hard either with it basically using 2 16V heads, get or make 2 log manifolds and set of 16V head spacers. now im wondering if i can use 8 AAN rods and pistons in it like i did with my old 1.8 16V turbo engine.

[dana]

in my mind the simplest v8 setup would be stack HG's and stock everything else. Use the factory headers and rework them to accommodate a crossover pipe for a single turbo.

[vwnut8392]

in my mind the simplest v8 setup would be stack HG's and stock everything else. Use the factory headers and rework them to accommodate a crossover pipe for a single turbo.

That is a pretty simple way to approach it. that give me another idea for a turbo lay out too as i went and stared at the engine bay for a little. leave the drivers side header where it is and make a cross over pipe under the engine/car than flip the passenger manifold upside down and make them merge together into a collector. also i dont like the fact that the throttle body faces the firewall, i wonder if i can flip the intake around to make it more like a domestic V8 engine, it would make plumbing the charge piping for a front mount sooo much easier.

[dana]

the seed is planted....excellent. I feel like flipping the intake might not be as easy as it appears from the outside. What about a w/a intercooler in the rain tray and piping from rain tray into back of intake manifold. Probably not enough room in the tray for that.

[vwnut8392]

Its been a while since i've posted any update on the whip. as of lately i've added the 034 varimap set at 3 bar along with a new set of custom chips i've been working on. than my turbo decied to take a crap and getting an ebay turbo was alot cheaper than getting a replacement K24. i opted for a T3 T04E with a 50 trim compressor wheel and .63 A/R exhaust housing.

034 varimap installed


K24 vs T3 T04E


Installing the T3 T04E



As of lately though im tired of messing with the stock ECU and it being my limiting factor so i went out and borrowed some money to buy VEMS. now i can focus on making power and not have to figure out more of the ECU every time i want to do something.

[themagellan]

Did you reinforce that ebay manifold? Looks like a sweet setup.

[vwnut8392]

Did you reinforce that ebay manifold? Looks like a sweet setup.

no i really didnt have to, they seemed to have stepped up the quality of the materials used to make it. the tubing and flanges are thicker than previous ebay manifolds ive seen like this. i use my launch control all the time with it and it still hasnt cracked yet. only problem i found with it was the flanges were not completely flat but a belt sander fixed that right up.

[vwnut8392]

Well its been a while but if you've guys have seen my post's on here i've been struggling with trying to get my VEMS ECU running on my car. i tried to convert my ECU to run on the factory crank sensors with no luck, than i converted back to hall sensor and installed the VW polo 60-2 rear main sensor and it turned out the sensor was bad. now im on to my last and final attempt at getting a crank sensor signal. My solution is to leave the ECU as a hall setup for starters and use a cam sensor from an MK3 VR6 as i have a few of them laying around. for my trigger wheel setup i found myself looking at an old VR6 crankshaft that just happens to have a 60-2 trigger wheel so i removed it from the crank and layed it on my spare AAN crank pulley. what i found was they are the same diameter so the VR6 trigger wheel didnt fit over the front of the AAN damper pulley. so i had my brother take the damper pulley and the trigger wheel to work and machine the damper pulley down a little so that the trigger wheel fits over the front of the damper pulley. now i need to make a sensor bracket and figure out how align the trigger wheel on the damper pulley in reference to the crank sensor. i think through the battle i've had with VEMS and its crank trigger's this is my ultimate solution because its easy to access and maintain and it uses all factory OEM parts that are readily available.

here's some pics of the damper pulley and the trigger wheel.

The AAN damper pulley with a little bit of material machined off the front edge.


The VR6 trigger wheel fit to the AAN damper pulley.


The face of the damper pulley with the VR6 trigger wheel fit on it. looks like it should be like that from the factory doesnt it?

[vwnut8392]

After my week long VEMS encounter that did not end well i put my car back on the stock ECU and dial it back in. After syncing timing with a timing light vs flattening the iginion mapping to 20 degrees i realized that anything above idle the ECU advanced my timing by 5 degrees!
so all this time when i thought i was giving it 18 degrees advance i was really giving it 23 degrees advance on top end. i made adjustments accordingly and was very pleased with how it run so i figured a trip to the drag strip was in order.

i got to make one pass at the the track. i had 185/60/14 blizzak snow tires on the car and it was around 45 degrees that night with both differentials open. it went to the rev limiter instantly spinning first and when it hit boost in second it spun again. i was only running 18 to 20psi over all with very conservitave ignition timing and a fairly rich fuel map (like 11.5 to 11.0 AFR). This was the first time i've ever ran a car at the drag strip plus the first time this car has ever been ran. i think its alot faster that 13.7 the way it sits if i could have got traction and had a better reaction time. i was thinking mid to low 12's hooking up and not touching boost levels or any other tuning. also i forgot my gopro camera at home or i would have had a clip of the run from the track too.

Here's the slip from that night.



a few clips of me trying to get the launch control dialed n. the car seemed to hook up alot better on my private test pad vs the track.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd0pUVgGWSA[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK0Mpx9paaI[/youtube]

[vwnut8392]

its been a while since i updated anything about the car because its been a while since i worked on it. the parts i need and needed to fix it are so expensive i lost interest in the car because of lack of funds to repair it. last problem i had was the key way shearing off on the crank gear for a second time which bent my exhaust valves again it also took a toll on my cam gear and broke the key way off on it too.
after pricing the parts from audi and looking at the prices for aftermarket parts i was extremely disappointed and discouraged. this was after i had purchased a VEMS ECU for the car which only ran it for 11 hours and had what i was told a processor failure. so i was already out 1300.00 on the ECU and now i was done to spending another 800 to a 1000 to fix the gears and the head. talk about everything falling to shit all at once .

so the car has sat torn apart in the corner of the garage after diagnosis for the past 4 months. instead of spending 2000.00 bucks on it i spent the 2 grand i had saved and bought a URS6 avant to drive daily instead. i'd rather have a car thats not going to break every 15 minutes to drive daily. so after 4 months of saving again i finally could afford to buy the tommi's billet crank gear instead of the factory one that i swear is made of glass. one of my friends has a spare AAN engine and was kind enough to lend me his cam gear for now till i can afford the tommi's billet cam gear too. now the matter of saving up around 400.00 bucks to get my VEMS ECU fixed so i can drive it again. it probably wont run again till mid winter or even next spring .

i have started working on the car again though. this time i moved the radiator from out front like i originally had and went back to the traditional side mount setup with a little twist. i didnt use the usual stock radiator, i opted to use an aftermarket aluminum 3 pass honda radiator that i modified to have the inlets and outlets like the original radiator. along with this setup i had to modify the water manifold to be more like a 3B one moving the radiator outlet toward the rear of the engine. it looks like a bit of a mess at the moment but i think its all going to work out just fine.

The cam gear my friend lent me, its not pretty but it will work.


Decided to clean and powder coat the cam gear. looks much nicer now.


The day i got my tommi's billet crank gear.


bolted the modified water manifold on, test fit the honda radiator and start making some of the radiator hoses.


Lightly bolted the intake manifold on to check clearances and everything is tight but looks like its going to work just fine.



Well thats it for now. i will most likely get all this finished up and the car will sit till i can afford to get my ECU repaired.

Almost forgot to post some pics of the S6 avant too!

Paid 2 grand for it! the owner thought the head gasket was bad lol because there was liquid coming out of the exhaust.

The day i got the machine! first things first and that was to remove the god awful front plate holder and get rid of the stock wheels because they are hideous.



Had to replace the stock wheels with something so i had a set of 18in porsche twists with H&R adapters sitting around to install. i picked the wheels with the adapters up for a 100.00 and no their not stolen.


the mileage the day i brought it home.


Mileage as of last monday.


I installed a small custom ECU tune with an 034 varimap in the ECU shortly after this along with a custom made 3in turbo back exhaust and single borla muffler. than i decided the stock intercooler sucked so i put a big scary frount mount on it.


along the way i plasti-dipped the roof rails, the chrome around the windows and around the grill black. i put URS4 mirrors on because i hate the nemo mirror, it makes the car look awkward. added window tint and my custom mono wiper setup which does wipe a full 180 degrees.

here's some other pics.

this is my car with my friends 80,00 mile URS6 avant.



I broke one of my inner tail lights by accident so i ended up with euro audi 100 inner tail lights and filler.


Engine bay after cleaning, powder coating and modifications. current setup is stock engine with Ebay RS2 manifold, custom intake, full custom 3in turbo back exhaust with external dump wastegate, custom 1.8T coil pack conversion, powder coated matte black valve cover and intake manifold, 31x12x3 fmic with custom made piping.





my ignition cut launch control setup is not nice to a borla muffler either lol.

[PRY4SNO]

Nice score on the avant! I've got a black intake ready to go on and was going to do my spare VC in black as well, nice to see what the end result will look like.

No warranty on the Vems?

[vwnut8392]

Nice score on the avant! I've got a black intake ready to go on and was going to do my spare VC in black as well, nice to see what the end result will look like.

No warranty on the Vems?

Thanks man! the black valve cover and intake really make the bay look nice. i have the stock coil cover done in black too with the 20V turbo powder coated red. the red letters looks great with the matte black powder. i cant run the coil cover with the 1.8T coilpacks though, if i did it would cook them.

no, i bought the VEMS ECU second hand. the kick in the nuts was the person i got it from never put it on a car and it was only a few months old. im second owner so no love for me although marc swanson is helping me out with getting it repaired and from what i gather it could be a ton worse if it wasnt for marc helping. i hope after its fixed this time i dont have anymore problems. i always seem to end up with bastard electronics for some reason. i know people who have had their VEMS ECU's on their cars for years with 0 problems and thats why i bought one.

[vwnut8392]

i decided today that it was time to get away from the mad max looking front end and intercooler setup so here's the start of the new setup with a fresh bumper cover.

[PRY4SNO]

Interesting.

Is the bumper getting the snow camo look too, or is the whole car's look changing?

[vwnut8392]

Interesting.

Is the bumper getting the snow camo look too, or is the whole car's look changing?

Im sticking with the camo look, its like the cars trademark at this point lol. i was going to paint it just flat white and leave it like that but my friends told me it has to be my snow camo pattern or they would lynch me.

[PRY4SNO]

Good to have solid friends.

[vwnut8392]

i realized its been a long time since i've updated this on my car! geese, what have me and the old camo lump been up to eh? well for starters its still running and no more VEMS failures thanks to all of marc's help! i have since removed the T3T04E that was on there and installed a good old holset HX35 now. i also added bosch motorsport EV14 1000cc injectors as well. those are the only major updates to the car as im beyond the cheap gimme mods and its all spend half or a whole paycheck just for one part lol. you all know how it goes. ohh well on to some updated pics.


The setup as of lately.


Last summer doing some playing on the private test pad with the nitto NT01 summer shoes on and cheapo 15in wheels a friend gave me.

was out playing the snow storm here in PA on january 22. the trusty 4KQ was the only car that would go in that storm! the S6 would jsut sink and high center, i had to drag the poor S6 back to a garage door at my shop with my front loader.


well thats it for now. i've been so busy with other things i dont really have much time to work on the old 4k lately. honestly i should be focusing on restoring my URQ now more than anything.